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	<title>EXTREME POLITICS</title>
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	<description>Extreme politics: the action taken by those who care about our future but believe conventional politics cannot stop its decline, so we must seek other, often taboo, options like anarchy, greenism, libertarianism, nationalism, communism and fascism.</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Far-right party membership list leaked</title>
		<link>http://www.extremepolitics.org/2008/11/18/far-right-party-membership-list-leaked/</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[These far-right parties are sort of&#8230; dare we say&#8230; incompetent &#8230;?

The British National party tonight vowed to take legal action after its entire membership list was published online in breach of a court injunction.
The party blamed disgruntled former employees for posting details of the names, postal and email addresses and ages of more than 10,000 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These far-right parties are sort of&#8230; dare we say&#8230; <i>incompetent</i> &#8230;?</p>
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The British National party tonight vowed to take legal action after its entire membership list was published online in breach of a court injunction.</p>
<p>The party blamed disgruntled former employees for posting details of the names, postal and email addresses and ages of more than 10,000 supporters.</p>
<p>{ snip }</p>
<p>Simon Darby, the BNP&#8217;s spokesman, said the membership list, which was password protected and encrypted, had been stolen from the party. &#8220;This isn&#8217;t a question of us mislaying the information, this is theft,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>{ snip }</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m also on the list, what the fuck is going on? I could lose my job,&#8221; posted one member on a north-west England BNP forum.</p>
<p>Another wrote: &#8220;God help anyone who is in the army, the prison service, health care, police officer or a teacher.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since 2004, police officers have faced dismissal if found to be members of the BNP.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/nov/18/bnp-membership-list-leak" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Guardian</a>
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<p>This should have interesting repercussions for far-right parties. At some point, it may be impossible for them to have members, which would either force them into leftist-style &#8220;cell&#8221; arrangements (probably more dangerous for the public) or to operate entirely anonymously except for a cabal of leaders, which would not contribute to their further stability.</p>
<p>Still, I doubt they&#8217;re going anywhere if this is the best face of competence they can show us. Can&#8217;t protect a membership list? Voters say: LOL, probably can&#8217;t protect a nation.</p>
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		<title>What Do Conservatives Believe?</title>
		<link>http://www.extremepolitics.org/2008/11/18/what-do-conservatives-believe/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you start telling people your hobby is politics, they&#8217;re going to ask you tough questions. Right now, in America, the question &#8220;What do Conservatives believe?&#8221; is one of the toughies.
Why is that &#8212; well, the conservative movement has gone through many mutations as it has tried to find a way of competing with its [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you start telling people your hobby is politics, they&#8217;re going to ask you tough questions. Right now, in America, the question &#8220;What do Conservatives believe?&#8221; is one of the toughies.</p>
<p>Why is that &#8212; well, the conservative movement has gone through many mutations as it has tried to find a way of competing with its more popular liberal opposition. It&#8217;s hard to figure out exactly what it stands for at this point.</p>
<p>Historically, Conservatives originated in the <i>ancien regime</i> &#8212; the old way of doing things that had worked for thousands of years. This meant an artistocracy, a caste but not class system, a feudal approach to wealth, a unity of religion and science, and so on. When you read about medieval Europe, ancient Rome, ancient Greece or ancient India, you&#8217;re reading about this type of society (Plato addresses this in his cycle of civilizations under &#8220;Aristocracy.&#8221;)</p>
<p>American conservatives tend to define themselves by the oldest regime that country has, which happens to be what in European history would be seen as liberal, just like the French Revolution was. Our Founding Fathers were radicals of the time &#8212; Deists not Christians, hell-bent on autonomy of the individual, believers in free speech and No Kings. They weren&#8217;t liberals, however, in the modern sense. They recognized that most people shouldn&#8217;t have the vote, saw differences between genders and races, did not trust atheism and disliked social welfare. They were a hybrid of the European liberal, the homesteader and the old Conservatives.</p>
<p>The root of the term &#8220;conservative&#8221; means to conserve, and originally, that included the environment. Usually, it is applied to cultural values, as in conserving the family, the sanctity of marriage, and so on, because in a pluralist society anyone who has a strong values system that isn&#8217;t all-inclusively cool with &#8220;just do whatever you want man&#8221; is at a disadvantage. This applies to both conservatives and, when they demand we take hard action on the environment, liberals, because at that point each group has started demanding individuals sacrifice personal autonomy for collective action. But that&#8217;s another story.</p>
<p>Breed conservatism with anarchy and you get libertarianism, which is a type of Social Darwinism that believes that if we just let the markets regulate everything, there will be no need for government. Their critics point out that every single inch of the earth will be covered in advertising at that point, so it&#8217;s definitely an issue with two sides.</p>
<p>Today the lovely people at the Republic of Texas, who I&#8217;ve been interviewing about beliefs and the direction they&#8217;re taking their secessionist movement, sent me a document about the balance between &#8220;freedom&#8221; and &#8220;self-responsibility,&#8221; and this is what I think characterizes third-generation American conservatism: an emphasis on the values of the founding fathers with the methods of successful resistance to pluralism, which is a &#8220;don&#8217;t make me pay for the mistakes of others&#8221; attitude derived from libertarians.</p>
<p>The document is linked below.</p>
<p>So there you have it, folks&#8230; Conservatism is conservation, which right now means anarchy plus capitalism plus defensive irresponsibility in the name of freedom. If that seems baffling, consider this: conservatism, like extreme liberalism, is incompatible with the &#8220;do whatever you want, man&#8221; attitude of pluralist societies. Would Stalin or Lenin have agreed to that, either? No, of course not.</p>
<p>And this article is short, and only covered the moderate conservatives. The far-right &#8212; are they conservatives? That question in itself is too deeply entrenched to provide anything but &#8220;yes and no&#8221; right now, but it&#8217;s a fascinating one, since when you stop seeing the far right as conservatives, you see the essence of their periodic social appeal &#8212; and their willingness to do what conservatives are afraid to say they&#8217;d like to. (To be fair, the left has the same affliction, but that&#8217;s also a much bigger issue.)</p>
<p><a href='http://www.extremepolitics.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/self-responsibility.rtf' title='Self-Responsibility'>Self-Responsibility</a></p>
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		<title>Will Barack Obama be assassinated by the far right?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most of my friends know that my hobby consists of reading Plato and looking for ways his predictions manifest themselves in our current civilization. Plato&#8217;s observation was that civilizations have a life cycle, starting with a clear goal and as that fragments, proceeding into an ultra-pluralistic state where eventually the citizens have nothing in common [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of my friends know that my hobby consists of reading Plato and looking for ways his predictions manifest themselves in our current civilization. Plato&#8217;s observation was that civilizations have a life cycle, starting with a clear goal and as that fragments, proceeding into an ultra-pluralistic state where eventually the citizens have nothing in common and democracy marches into tyranny. </p>
<p>As he was quick to point out, tyranny never <i>looks like tyranny</i> because if it did it would be wholly ineffective. It approaches instead with kindness. Like all dualistic things, this makes it more fun to try to spot, because its character is positive in appearance but negative in effect. People who know of this reading ignore me except when they&#8217;re scared, and then they ask questions.</p>
<p>In the suburban-urban circle of friends &#8212; play dates, beers on the porch, volunteering at the recycling center &#8212; the overwhelming question asked is: will white nationalists/supremacists assassinate Barack Obama?</p>
<p>My answer is no, for a simple reason. The white power fringe is nowhere near as organized or powerful as portrayed in the media. The two &#8220;assassination attempts&#8221; so far involved out of work guys high on meth talking big with no follow through. To assassinate a presidential candidate involves planning, deception, skill and knowledge of the subject&#8217;s movements; neither of the attempts listed so far had even an ounce of any of that (but they did have several ounces of meth).</p>
<p>When you read in your newspaper about white supremacists, statistics are often cited about how many white supremacist groups there are in the USA. What they don&#8217;t tell you is that most of these &#8220;groups&#8221; are two guys with meth, a computer, a shotgun and a Geocities page. The far-right is in a shambles in the United States and is unlikely to issue forth a coherent statement in the next twenty years, much less manage to even approach a presidential candidate.</p>
<p>Why do we hear so much about white supremacy then? To put it crudely, those who we depend on for our data make their money from overstating the threat. The ADL, SPLC, One People&#8217;s Project etc get donations every time they drum up a Nazi threat to minorities and religious minorities, so they turn two guys with a shotgun and a meth habit into an army of jackbooted fanatics. The money comes in. Mission accomplished.</p>
<p>So my verdict is that Obama&#8217;s safe. I just don&#8217;t see these disorganized, marginalized people mounting an attack. As an addendum to that, I think the people who watch them are pretty good &#8212; the law enforcement people, the FBI and secret service. One major reason they&#8217;re good is that when your targets can&#8217;t stop taking meth and buying illegal guns, it&#8217;s easy to turn informants. &#8220;Hold up there, Jethro, this looks like an ounce of meth and an unlicensed AK-47. Saaayyy&#8230; instead of doing 30 years in Cell Block Sodomy, how about you just keep us informed on what your fellow Knights of the Burning Auslander are doing? Keep it real, buddy.&#8221; They even pay off their informants in cold hard taxpayer cash because if you pay them for any rumor, you&#8217;ll get lots of tremors if anything real is going on.</p>
<p>There are far-right groups to watch, but generally they&#8217;re more of the rationale not race war types. They&#8217;re just not the ones to get press. I&#8217;ll break the list down for you here.</p>
<p><b>Groovers and Fakers</b></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.stormfront.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Stormfront</a>
<p>Not a white supremacist group as much as a giant discussion forum with 100,000 members, most of whom appear to be receiving disability.</p>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Vanguard</a>
<p>Not a white supremacist group so much as a humor and news publication from a pro-white angle.</p>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.americannaziparty.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">American Nazi Party</a>
<p>Moribund remnants of George Lincoln Rockwell&#8217;s party.</p>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.natall.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">National Alliance</a>
<p>Moribund remnants of William Luther Pierce&#8217;s party.</p>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.nsm88.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">National Socialist Movement</a>
<p>More interested in spiffy uniforms than action.</p>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.kkkk.net/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Klan</a>
<p>Unable to achieve any action more organized than beating up Panamanian teens.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p>These groups, while they achieve the overwhelming majority of the media attention on this issue, are also the least likely to take action &#8212; and if they do take action, they&#8217;re the least likely to take organized, effective action with a chance of being effective. <i>If these people decide to assassinate Obama, the safest place will be standing next to him.</i></p>
<p><b>Movers and Shakers</b></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.amren.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">American Renaissance</a>
<p>Scientific race separatists who do nothing more extreme than hold a yearly conference at a major hotel chain.</p>
</li>
<li><a href="http://cofcc.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Council of Conservative Citizens</a>
<p>Includes an opposition to multiculturalism.</p>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.majorityrights.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Majority Rights</a>
<p>More displeased intellectuals. Pass the arugula.</p>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.thecivicplatform.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Civic Platform</a>
<p>More scientific racists, traditionalists.</p>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.nazi.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Libertarian National Socialist Green Party</a>
<p>No one is certain if they&#8217;re &#8220;for real&#8221; or not.</p>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.resist.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>White Aryan Resistance
<p>This group has been around forever but continues to grow.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p>In summary, we have some groups that are violent and ineffective, and others whose goal is to spread white supremacy rhetoric at parties and play dates. The former may try to assassinate President-Elect Obama, but will surely fail; the latter will not try, but will write nasty things on the internet about him. The FBI is watching both groups. I&#8217;m fairly certain he&#8217;s safe.</p>
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		<title>Racial Antagonism Increases in USA After Election</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 05:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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&#8220;I can&#8217;t say that every white person in Snellville is evil and anti-Obama and willing to desecrate my property because one or two idiots did it,&#8221; said Millner, who is black. &#8220;But it definitely makes you look a little different at the people who you live with, and makes you wonder what they&#8217;re capable of [...]]]></description>
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&#8220;I can&#8217;t say that every white person in Snellville is evil and anti-Obama and willing to desecrate my property because one or two idiots did it,&#8221; said Millner, who is black. &#8220;But it definitely makes you look a little different at the people who you live with, and makes you wonder what they&#8217;re capable of and what they&#8217;re really thinking.&#8221;</p>
<p>Potok, who is white, said he believes there is &#8220;a large subset of white people in this country who feel that they are losing everything they know, that the country their forefathers built has somehow been stolen from them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Grant Griffin, a 46-year-old white Georgia native, expressed similar sentiments: &#8220;I believe our nation is ruined and has been for several decades and the election of Obama is merely the culmination of the change. </p>
<p>{ snip }</p>
<p> _Four North Carolina State University students admitted writing anti-Obama comments in a tunnel designated for free speech expression, including one that said: &#8220;Let&#8217;s shoot that (N-word) in the head.&#8221; Obama has received more threats than any other president-elect, authorities say.</p>
<p>_At Standish, Maine, a sign inside the Oak Hill General Store read: &#8220;Osama Obama Shotgun Pool.&#8221; Customers could sign up to bet $1 on a date when Obama would be killed. &#8220;Stabbing, shooting, roadside bombs, they all count,&#8221; the sign said. At the bottom of the marker board was written &#8220;Let&#8217;s hope someone wins.&#8221;</p>
<p>_Racist graffiti was found in places including New York&#8217;s Long Island, where two dozen cars were spray-painted; Kilgore, Texas, where the local high school and skate park were defaced; and the Los Angeles area, where swastikas, racial slurs and &#8220;Go Back To Africa&#8221; were spray painted on sidewalks, houses and cars.</p>
<p>_Second- and third-grade students on a school bus in Rexburg, Idaho, chanted &#8220;assassinate Obama,&#8221; a district official said.</p>
<p>_University of Alabama professor Marsha L. Houston said a poster of the Obama family was ripped off her office door. A replacement poster was defaced with a death threat and a racial slur. &#8220;It seems the election brought the racist rats out of the woodwork,&#8221; Houston said.</p>
<p>_Black figures were hanged by nooses from trees on Mount Desert Island, Maine, the Bangor Daily News reported. The president of Baylor University in Waco, Texas said a rope found hanging from a campus tree was apparently an abandoned swing and not a noose.</p>
<p>_Crosses were burned in yards of Obama supporters in Hardwick, N.J., and Apolacan Township, Pa.</p>
<p>_A black teenager in New York City said he was attacked with a bat on election night by four white men who shouted &#8216;Obama.&#8217;</p>
<p>_In the Pittsburgh suburb of Forest Hills, a black man said he found a note with a racial slur on his car windshield, saying &#8220;now that you voted for Obama, just watch out for your house.&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=2008-11-16_D94FQJKG0&#038;show_article=1&#038;cat=breaking" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Breitbart</a>
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<p>Assuming that up to half of these reported crimes are fake, which would be about on the level for crimes that bring dramatic attention to the reporter, that&#8217;s still a big surge in racial discontent.</p>
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		<title>&#8220;The instability of pluralism as a mathematical model for civilization&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[More from the surly but well-informed The Unpopular Truth:

I think we should focus on two groups: the demographic majority, and those who want the power now held by the demographic majority (this second group is comprised of members of different ethnicities, including the majority of it, which is of the same group as the demographic [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More from the surly but well-informed The Unpopular Truth:</p>
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I think we should focus on two groups: the demographic majority, and those who want the power now held by the demographic majority (this second group is comprised of members of different ethnicities, including the majority of it, which is of the same group as the demographic majority).</p>
<p>Multiculturalism cannot work because it destroys consensus. It is a form of pluralism, or the idea that we can agree to disagree &#8212; on fundamental issues and values, including their means of transmission, &#8220;culture&#8221; &#8212; and still be OK as a nation. We destroy consensus, but we keep the benefits of society, so everyone thinks this is a good idea.</p>
<p>History shows us that it&#8217;s a path to destruction, because without consensus, it&#8217;s impossible to measure actions against an abstract yardstick. As a result, politics becomes balkanized and the question of the day becomes: &#8220;what are you gonna do for me?&#8221; and how to increase personal wealth, personal convenience, etc. at the expense of the collective.</p>
<p>The ethnic issue merely complicates this: those within the demographic majority who oppose consensus, generally because they are afraid of reality, use the pitied, minority ethnicity as moral justification for destroying the demographic majority.</p>
<p>The minority ethnicity then does what any group would do: destroys what the demographic majority created, and replaces it with something more appropriate for the demographic minority.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s simple math when you look at it outside of black and white. It would happen with Swedes and Russians mixed in a nation; Chinese and Vietnamese; Christians and Muslims. Any two or more groups in a pluralism are in competition. The focus should not be on ethnicity, but on the instability of pluralism as a mathematical model for civilization.</p>
<p><a href="http://penetrate.blogspot.com/2008/11/multiculturalism-creates-pity-which.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Unpopular Truth</a>
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<p>More heresy from those who believe our society is falling apart slowly (with a whimper and not a bang, with apologies to T.S. Eliot).</p>
<p>It makes sense that any group who collaborate need an abstract and ongoing goal, which is a values system in itself, to unite them. Any group larger than either 12 or 150 people, which are the number of people who can collaborate without a command structure and the number of people any one person can keep in mind with their daily actions, respectively.</p>
<p>The United States of America (USA) claims to unite itself by ideals like liberty and justice for all, but ideologies such as nationalism erode that by asking who &#8220;all&#8221; really is. Even more, some question whether that &#8220;all&#8221; should apply to those with controversial opinions, or to the group of unproductive: criminals, perverts, the retarded, the insane.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to watch this civilization contort as it declines, because if it follows the historical model &#8212; and it&#8217;s on the nose so far &#8212; it will first make it taboo to notice the decline, or to read Plato out loud too seriously. Second, it will begin playing with the definitions of &#8220;all&#8221; and what our ideals are or have mutated to be.</p>
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		<title>The Far-Right Continues Imploding</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As nations collapse, those who uphold their traditions become increasingly reactionary, which leads to the Stalinist practice of picking those who have dogma over those who are competent. As we see the Klan and other European nationalist groups implode over the next few years &#8212; part of which is the FBI trying to &#8220;keep the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As nations collapse, those who uphold their traditions become increasingly reactionary, which leads to the Stalinist practice of picking those who have dogma over those who are competent. As we see the Klan and other European nationalist groups implode over the next few years &#8212; part of which is the FBI trying to &#8220;keep the peace&#8221; after an Obama election &#8212; most of what we will see is moribund groups held together by extreme dogmatism, populated by incompetent drunks who make a living selling trinkets to those who still haven&#8217;t figured out these groups just &#8220;look&#8221; militant and ready, but have no unifying political philosophy and are basically race-hate profiteers.</p>
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By 2004, the Southern White Knights had chapters in Savannah, Georgia; Homosassa Springs, Florida; and Marion, Ohio. Its founding chapter relocated to Denham Springs, Louisiana. The group disbanded in early 2005, the center said.</p>
<p>{ snip }</p>
<p>An argument began, and the group&#8217;s leader, Foster, allegedly pushed her to the ground and shot her to death without warning.</p>
<p>{ snip }</p>
<p>Sheriff&#8217;s investigators said they received the initial tip from a convenience store clerk. Two of the group members went into the store and asked the clerk whether he knew how to get bloodstains out of their clothes, Strain said. The clerk told them no and called the sheriff after they left.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/14/klan.slaying/index.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">CNN</a>
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<p>This pattern has occurred repeatedly among the far right and far left. The people who are rewarded with public attention are those who speak the loudest dogma, but they are also the people least likely to be competent. Why: competent activists with controversial ideas tend to soften them so others can stomach them long enough to understand them and possibly adopt them, while dogmatists feel self-reinforced from the hatred of others to match what their own dogma-over-reality attitude has whittled down to simple hatred.</p>
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A jury awarded $2.5 million in damages on Friday to a Kentucky teenager who was severely beaten by members of a Ku Klux Klan group because they mistakenly thought he was an illegal Latino immigrant, the Southern Poverty Law Center said.</p>
<p>{ snip }</p>
<p>&#8220;We look forward to collecting every dime that we can for our client and to putting the Imperial Klans of America out of business,&#8221; said SPLC founder and chief trial attorney Morris Dees, who tried the case.</p>
<p>{ snip }</p>
<p>According to testimony, three members of the Klan group confronted Gruver in July 2006 during a recruiting mission at the Meade County Fair in Brandenberg, Kentucky. They taunted him with ethnic slurs &#8212; inaccurate ones &#8212; spat on him and doused him with alcohol .Two of the men, including Hensley, knocked Gruver to the ground and repeatedly struck and kicked him.</p>
<p>{ snip }</p>
<p>Former Klansman Kale Kelly, once a member of Edwards&#8217; inner circle, testified he was told to kill Dees because of the center&#8217;s lawsuit in Idaho against the Aryan Nations, a neo-Nazi supremacist organization.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/14/klan.sued.verdict/index.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">CNN</a>
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<p>The incompetence would be shocking if you took the media at their word when they described the far right as dangerous, but a more apt description is that the far right is a drunken old man with a shotgun. Unable to achieve the revolution they want, they will occasionally open fire on likely victims &#8212; people too stupid to avoid the stupid and angry &#8212; and self-destruct, because people like Morris Dees are smarter and more competent than they are.</p>
<p>Part of the process of a nation decomposing before death is that its traditions get destroyed by irrelevance; when consensus is gone, trying to uphold &#8220;tradition&#8221; is like demanding the same effects from different causes, or like trying to step into the same river twice. There is no longer the underlying consensus that enabled those traditions. Smart activists work to get together small secessionist groups who can, by the nature of being under the radar, ride out the next two decades to two centuries of delusional instability; dumb activists open fire.</p>
<p>This commentary floored me:</p>
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As we face a new &#8212; but old, following the path of other failed civilizations &#8212; era, we are going to face the rising anger of the far right: neo-Nazis, white supremacists, white nationalists, and so on.</p>
<p>When I think of this group, what makes me dislike their existence is that they&#8217;re so negative. Instead of affirming racial differences through the positive, like pointing out the traits that make us different and how they point to proud histories, they&#8217;re constantly negative. Instead of pointing out the obvious, which is that multiculturalism and pluralism destroy societies, they blame black people &#8212; and pretend that our failing civilization would be just peachy keen if it weren&#8217;t for the presence of African genetics among us.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s negativity, not logic, and it&#8217;s highly destructive. It&#8217;s not constructing a future, it&#8217;s whining. It&#8217;s not looking toward something better; it&#8217;s affirming what&#8217;s worse. In short, even if it weren&#8217;t an ideology I disagreed with, I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s a dumb implementation.</p>
<p>{ snip }</p>
<p>Keep negative thinking in all forms out of politics. It&#8217;s fine to say multiculturalism and pluralism don&#8217;t work; it&#8217;s stupid to veer off into bigotry, racism, hatred and negativity.</p>
<p><a href="http://penetrate.blogspot.com/2008/11/lock-up-all-neo-nazis.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Unpopular Truth</a>
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		<title>The Gay Agenda Causes Intra-Liberal Factionalism</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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The Mormon Church is not the only group being singled out for criticism. African-Americans, 70% of whom voted yes on Proposition 8, according to a CNN exit poll, have become a target. According to eyewitness reports published on the Internet, racial epithets have been used against African-Americans at protests in California, directed even at blacks [...]]]></description>
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The Mormon Church is not the only group being singled out for criticism. African-Americans, 70% of whom voted yes on Proposition 8, according to a CNN exit poll, have become a target. According to eyewitness reports published on the Internet, racial epithets have been used against African-Americans at protests in California, directed even at blacks who are fighting to repeal Proposition 8. Said Evan Wolfson, executive director of Freedom to Marry, &#8220;In any fight, there will be people who say things they shouldn&#8217;t say, but that shouldn&#8217;t divert attention from what the vast majority are saying against this, that it&#8217;s a terrible injustice.&#8221;</p>
<p>In addition to protests, gay activists have begun publishing lists online exposing individuals and organizations who have donated money in support of Proposition 8. On AntiGayBlacklist.com, individuals who gave money toward Proposition 8 are publicized, with readers urged not to patronize their businesses or services. The list of donors was culled from data on ElectionTrack.com, which follows all contributions of over $1,000 and all contributions of over $100 given before October 17. Dentists, accountants, veterinarians and the like who gave a few thousand dollars to the cause are listed alongside major donors like the Container Supply Co., Inc. of Garden Grove, Calif., which gave $250,000. &#8220;Anyone who steps into a political fight aimed at taking away fundamental rights from fellow citizens opens themselves up to criticism,&#8221; said Wolfson. &#8220;The First Amendment gives them the right of freedom of speech and to support political views, but people also have the right to criticize them.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1859323,00.html?xid=site-cnn-partner" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Time</a>
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<p>Except that the federal government is doing its best to prevent people from <a href="http://www.extremepolitics.org/2008/11/12/the-case-of-sherman-austin/">publishing names next to calls for action</a>, this is a very effective strategy: identify others and shame them as being anti-social, or not supporting altruistic and egalitarian policies that equalize the privileges available to all.</p>
<p>What we&#8217;re seeing now is the natural process of the fragmentation of a civilization. The main means of the fragmentation, which is the demand for individual rights and divisions of the pie on an equal level, leads to different groups finding their values increasingly in conflict. For example, the strong pro-gay lobby may clash with the Christian values of some minority groups.</p>
<p>This is one major reason why nations in fact come apart. Once the original consensus is broken, there is no place to move on from there &#8212; except further subdividing consensus. Once we agreed we all agreed; then we agree to disagree; finally, we become truly Balkanized and start fighting for our right to become literally separate communities in the midst of a nation that, like a shopping mall, is there to provide services not unity or purpose.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fascinating to watch this develop. Apparently, the gay lobby is going to find out like the European nationalist lobby that the voting public will take direct action against a minority group as a sign of aggression, but will not at all be offended by the idea of a secessionist gay community.</p>
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		<title>Bill White pleads not guilty to making juror threats</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;ve covered Bill White before, as well as how our government is suppressing (not &#8220;oppressing&#8221;) radicals from far left to far right as a means of maintaining order. Here&#8217;s more information about Bill White:

Neo-Nazi William “Bill” White pleaded not guilty this morning to soliciting harm against a juror who presided in the trial of white [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve covered <a href="http://www.extremepolitics.org/2008/10/31/white-supremacist-indicted-for-threatening-juror/">Bill White</a> before, as well as how our government is <a href="http://www.extremepolitics.org/2008/11/12/the-case-of-sherman-austin/">suppressing</a> (not &#8220;oppressing&#8221;) radicals from far left to far right as a means of maintaining order. Here&#8217;s more information about Bill White:</p>
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Neo-Nazi William “Bill” White pleaded not guilty this morning to soliciting harm against a juror who presided in the trial of white supremacist Matt Hale.</p>
<p>The FBI shut down the Web site shortly before arresting White in late October. White, 31, of Roanoke, Va. is accused of using the Web site to solicit another person to injure the foreperson of the jury that convicted Hale in 2004.</p>
<p>White posted the home address and phone numbers for the juror on Sept. 11.</p>
<p>“This case is going to be the United States versus the First Amendment,” White’s lawyer Nishay Shanan said today. “This case is all about this First Amendment rights” and the government’s efforts to quiet White.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/1274966,neo-nazi-william-white-111208.article" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Sun Times</a>
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<p>It will be interesting to see what happens to <a href="http://www.extremepolitics.org/2008/10/31/white-supremacist-indicted-for-threatening-juror/">Bill White</a>, <a href="http://www.extremepolitics.org/2008/11/12/the-case-of-sherman-austin/">Sherman Austin</a> and <a href="http://www.extremepolitics.org/2008/11/10/animal-activist-arrested-for-publishing-personal-info/">Pamely Ferdin</a> shake out. Is the government acknowledging our civilization&#8217;s decline by sitting down hard on dissenters who might enact change, instead of the usual moonbats and boneheads?</p>
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		<title>Texian Republic Urges Texas Secession from USA</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s been a lot of interest in secession since this election. After 2004, liberal places like Vermont and New Hampshire wanted to pull away. After 2008, conservative places are wanting to secede. It&#8217;s as if the recognition that liberal and conservative are incompatible has come home to roost, and the result is a desire for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s been a lot of interest in secession since this election. After 2004, liberal places like Vermont and New Hampshire wanted to pull away. After 2008, conservative places are wanting to secede. It&#8217;s as if the recognition that liberal and conservative are incompatible has come home to roost, and the result is a desire for states to have autonomy under a confederacy that provides for their defense.</p>
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Texas was placed into dormancy not lawfully annexed. The Nation has always been there and has ?never ceded to any foreign Nation. Therefore since it never ceded itself it cannot un-secede. It does not need to because anything after 1845 was fraud anyway. &#8220;Texan&#8221; is a<br />
Corporate State Citizen without any rights they only have privileges. &#8220;Texians,&#8221; however, are citizens with full rights and are citizens of a Nation. See attached article explaining the difference. For example a Canadian is a citizen of Canada a foreign Nation. When you add the &#8220;i&#8221; in the word it is signifying an international individual of a certain Nation.</p>
<p>We need to get the word out to as many Texians as possible. The republic of Texas Congress has already served our Charter to the Texas Secretary of State in Austin and are in the process of serving other documents, effectively taking control of our Nation of Texas again. As the article explains, we do not have to go through the process of secession because we were never legally annexed.</p>
<p>Our next Congressional Meeting will be held on December 13th. We always announce the date, time and place on our website. All Texian citizens are welcome to attend our meetings.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.texasrepublic.info/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Texas Republic</a>
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<p>The following documents were included:</p>
<p><a href='http://www.extremepolitics.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/what_is_a_texian.rtf' title='What is a Texian?'>What is a Texian?</a></p>
<p><a href='http://www.extremepolitics.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/annexation_of_texas.rtf' title='Annexation of Texas'>Annexation of Texas</a></p>
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		<title>The Case of Sherman Austin</title>
		<link>http://www.extremepolitics.org/2008/11/12/the-case-of-sherman-austin/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As reported here about Bill White and Pamelyn Ferdin, we&#8217;ve seen an increase in government shutting down loud voices publishing useful information that can be employed against people responsible for certain decisions.
This is interesting to us at Extreme Politics because it&#8217;s both smart politics and potentially a sign of instability. It&#8217;s good politics because power [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As reported here about <a href="http://www.extremepolitics.org/2008/10/31/white-supremacist-indicted-for-threatening-juror/">Bill White</a> and <a href="http://www.extremepolitics.org/2008/11/10/animal-activist-arrested-for-publishing-personal-info/">Pamelyn Ferdin</a>, we&#8217;ve seen an increase in government shutting down loud voices publishing useful information that can be employed against people responsible for certain decisions.</p>
<p>This is interesting to us at Extreme Politics because it&#8217;s both smart politics and potentially a sign of instability. It&#8217;s good politics because power waits for no one; if you do not act against troublemakers, they will get bolder with each generation and soon present a real threat. On the other hand, if your nation has too many people pulling in too many directions, all of those directions will manifest as extreme movements at some point.</p>
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Though only a teenager, Sherman Austin was still quite capable of communicating his politically progressive ideas. After all, he was raised in Los Angeles by his mother, Jennifer, to feel free to speak his mind about any issues of the day. In January 2002, about 25 heavily armed FBI agents raided the Austin home, ransacking it while interrogating the terrified teenager for over five hours. The FBI seized the whiz kid&#8217;s network of computers in order to take down his rabble-rousing website, accusing him of disseminating bomb-making information.</p>
<p>{ snip }</p>
<p>Austin was prosecuted under a 1997 law sponsored by Senator Dianne Feinstein that makes it illegal to distribute information related to explosives with the intent to use that information in a “federal crime of violence.”</p>
<p>{ snip }</p>
<p>And when he gets out of prison next year, he will be banned from associating with anyone who wants to “change the government in any way.” Sherman Austin was arrested over 18 months ago. Federal officials charged that Austin had illegally distributed information about how to build Molotov cocktails and &#8220;Drano bombs&#8221; on his web site.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.infoshop.org/shermanaustin.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">InfoShop</a>
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<p>You might also want to visit <a href="http://www.raisethefist.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Sherman&#8217;s Website, <i>Raise the Fist</i></a></p>
<p>We&#8217;re mostly posting about Sherman Austin to show that indeed, the federal government appears to be applying this dictum uniformly: if you post information about decision-makers, especially in conjunction with exhorts to act and/or information about means to do so, they&#8217;re going to come down on you hard, because they don&#8217;t want dissidents of any stripe to think the ground is soft enough to plant those seeds.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to watch as government increasingly tries to restrict these types of extremists, since as pluralism increases, so does a tendency toward extremism.</p>
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